Don’t Smoke Around My Kid

  1. stephy says:

    Very timely! I had taken my 18mo daughter to the playground just this weekend where there was a grandma there with her kids. The grandma was standing right there next to all the playground equipment smoking away. I was appalled and shocked to see someone doing that! I loudly said to my daughter “let’s go over to this other part of the playground… there’s really dangerous cigarette smoke over here!” The grandma gave me a dirty, dirty look but walked away to a park bench that was a bit out of the way.

    • suburbanturmoil says:

      I think a lot of people are just assuming it’s okay because it was 20, 30, 40 years ago. But with all the facts we have now about secondhand smoke, some smokers definitely need a wake-up call about how they’re affecting the people around them.

      • harleyrider1778 says:

        Its a myth second hand smoke never harmed a thing not even a child much less a fly above a smokers table….Have you actually looked at what the chemical make up is of SHS/ETS! Here Its a short lesson and please don’t laugh at yourself to much!

        About 90% of secondary smoke is composed of water vapor and ordinary air with a minor amount of carbon dioxide. The volume of water vapor of second hand smoke becomes even larger as it quickly disperses into the air,depending upon the humidity factors within a set location indoors or outdoors. Exhaled smoke from a smoker will provide 20% more water vapor to the smoke as it exists the smokers mouth.

        4 % is carbon monoxide.

        6 % is those supposed 4,000 chemicals to be found in tobacco smoke. Unfortunatley for the smoke free advocates these supposed chemicals are more theorized than actually found.What is found is so small to even call them threats to humans is beyond belief.Nanograms,picograms and femptograms……
        (1989 Report of the Surgeon General p. 80).

  2. cheesehead4ever says:

    It’s not just the smoke. A few years ago at the Minnesota State Fair (where people are often jammed tightly together) a woman was smoking and in the process of lifting and lowering the cigarette to and from her mouth, she managed to lower it right into a 2 year old girl’s eye.

    Let’s just say the following year, the fair board changed the rules so smoking is only allowed in about 5 small specific smoking areas around the fairgrounds.

    • suburbanturmoil says:

      That happened to me as a kid, too- but the burn was on my shoulder and I was five. I can still remember how much it hurt.

      • harleyrider1778 says:

        Nord Med. 1994;109(4):121-5.
        [Environmental somatization syndrome. How to deal with the external milieu syndrome?].
        [Article in Swedish]
        Nilsson CG, Göthe CJ, Molin C.
        SourceMed Rehabiliteringskliniken, Huddinge Sjukhus.

        Abstract
        Somatization is a tendency to experience and communicate psychogenic distress in the form of somatic symptoms and to seek medical help for them. Patients suffering from environmental somatization syndrome (ESS) consider their symptoms to be caused by exposure to chemical or physical components of the external environment or by ergonomic stress at work. ESS is distinguished by mental contagiousness and a tendency to cluster. Sometimes it explodes in wide-spread epidemics that may be escalated by mass-media campaigns. Extensive ESS epidemics have been connected to, i.a., arsenic, carbon monoxide (“generator gas poisoning”), mercury (“oral galvanism”), carbon-free copy papers, electromagnetic fields (“electric allergy”) and repetitive movements (“repetition strain injury”, RSI). The typical patient directs the interest on the external environment, refuses alternative explanations of his symptoms and abhors any suggestion of a psychogenic etiology.

        The community is often placed in difficult positions by lobby groups calling for drastic measures to eliminate alleged disease-inducing exposures. When hygienic evils occur simultaneously with an ESS epidemic, it is essential to strictly differ the hygienic problems from the ESS problems. If mismanaged, measures aimed at reducing hygienic inconveniences may aggravate the complex of ESS problems.

      • harleyrider1778 says:

        Heres a time line starting in 1900,dont be surprised to see the same thing playing out today nearly 100 years later.

        1901: REGULATION: Strong anti-cigarette activity in 43 of the 45 states. “Only Wyoming and Louisiana had paid no attention to the cigarette controversy, while the other forty-three states either already had anti-cigarette laws on the books or were considering new or tougher anti-cigarette laws, or were the scenes of heavy anti- cigarette activity” (Dillow, 1981:10).

        1904: New York: A judge sends a woman is sent to jail for 30 days for smoking in front of her children.

        1904: New York City. A woman is arrested for smoking a cigarette in an automobile. “You can’t do that on Fifth Avenue,” the arresting officer says.

        1907: Busines

    • harleyrider1778 says:

      Kids should be more careful than to get in the way at crowded areas. Ive seen them stampeded and stepped all over when some insane person screamed second hand smoke RUN RUN !!!!

  3. harleyrider1778 says:

    Lies about second hand smoke abound everywhere the facts are its HARMLESS!

    This pretty well destroys the Myth of second hand smoke:

    Lungs from pack-a-day smokers safe for transplant, study finds.

    By JoNel Aleccia, Staff Writer, NBC News.

    Using lung transplants from heavy smokers may sound like a cruel joke, but a new study finds that organs taken from people who puffed a pack a day for more than 20 years are likely safe.

    What’s more, the analysis of lung transplant data from the U.S. between 2005 and 2011 confirms what transplant experts say they already know: For some patients on a crowded organ waiting list, lungs from smokers are better than none.

    “I think people are grateful just to have a shot at getting lungs,” said Dr. Sharven Taghavi, a cardiovascular surgical resident at Temple University Hospital in Philadelphia, who led the new study………………………

    Ive done the math here and this is how it works out with second ahnd smoke and people inhaling it!

    The 16 cities study conducted by the U.S. DEPT OF ENERGY and later by Oakridge National laboratories discovered:

    Cigarette smoke, bartenders annual exposure to smoke rises, at most, to the equivalent of 6 cigarettes/year.

    146,000 CIGARETTES SMOKED IN 20 YEARS AT 1 PACK A DAY.

    A bartender would have to work in second hand smoke for 2433 years to get an equivalent dose.

    Then the average non-smoker in a ventilated restaurant for an hour would have to go back and forth each day for 119,000 years to get an equivalent 20 years of smoking a pack a day! Pretty well impossible ehh!

  4. harleyrider1778 says:

    Reference Manual on Scientific Evidence: Third Edition

    This sorta says it all

    These limits generally are based on assessments of health risk and calculations of concentrations that are associated with what the regulators believe to be negligibly small risks. The calculations are made after first identifying the total dose of a chemical that is safe (poses a negligible risk) and then determining the concentration of that chemical in the medium of concern that should not be exceeded if exposed individuals (typically those at the high end of media contact) are not to incur a dose greater than the safe one.

    So OSHA standards are what is the guideline for what is acceptable ”SAFE LEVELS”

    OSHA SAFE LEVELS

    All this is in a small sealed room 9×20 and must occur in ONE HOUR.

    For Benzo[a]pyrene, 222,000 cigarettes.

    “For Acetone, 118,000 cigarettes.

    “Toluene would require 50,000 packs of simultaneously smoldering cigarettes.

    Acetaldehyde or Hydrazine, more than 14,000 smokers would need to light up.

    “For Hydroquinone, “only” 1250 cigarettes.

    For arsenic 2 million 500,000 smokers at one time.

    The same number of cigarettes required for the other so called chemicals in shs/ets will have the same outcomes.

    So, OSHA finally makes a statement on shs/ets :

    Field studies of environmental tobacco smoke indicate that under normal conditions, the components in tobacco smoke are diluted below existing Permissible Exposure Levels (PELS.) as referenced in the Air Contaminant Standard (29 CFR 1910.1000)…It would be very rare to find a workplace with so much smoking that any individual PEL would be exceeded.” -Letter From Greg Watchman, Acting Sec’y, OSHA.

    Why are their any smoking bans at all they have absolutely no validity to the courts or to science!

  5. harleyrider1778 says:

    The inconvenient truth is that the only studies of children of smokers suggest it is PROTECTIVE in contracting atopy in the first place. The New Zealand study says by a staggering factor of 82%.

    “Participants with atopic parents were also less likely to have positive SPTs between ages 13 and 32 years if they smoked themselves (OR=0.18), and this reduction in risk remained significant after adjusting for confounders.

    The authors write: “We found that children who were exposed to parental smoking and those who took up cigarette smoking themselves had a lower incidence of atopy to a range of common inhaled allergens.
    “These associations were found only in those with a parental history of asthma or hay fever.”

    They conclude: Our findings suggest that preventing allergic sensitization is not one of them.”
    The Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology
    Volume 121, Issue 1 , Pages 38-42.e3, January 2008

    .
    This is a Swedish study.

    “Children of mothers who smoked at least 15 cigarettes a day tended to have lower odds for suffering from allergic rhino-conjunctivitis, allergic asthma, atopic eczema and food allergy, compared to children of mothers who had never smoked (ORs 0.6-0.7)

    CONCLUSIONS: This study demonstrates an association between current exposure to tobacco smoke and a low risk for atopic disorders in smokers themselves and a similar tendency in their children.”
    Clin Exp Allergy 2001 Jun;31(6):908-14

  6. Gertie says:

    If you are still smoking this day and age with all the information out there and all the available help to quit, then you are a fool.

    Who smokes anymore????? Gross.

    • suburbanturmoil says:

      I do really wonder why people continue to smoke now that there are electronic cigarettes that deliver the nicotine without the potential cancer and the smell…

  7. Julie Pippert says:

    It always gives me an asthma attack. I shouldn’t need to explain why that’s a problem, but for some reason, smokers seem to think it is only my problem and I ought to “stay home.” I know this because I have politely asked that they not smoke around me, and I’ve yet to have one say, “Oh I had no idea it could provoke an asthma attack, I’m sorry. I’ll wait until later.” I have had plenty say who cares.

  8. Melissa says:

    Wow. This post is so great and says exactly how I feel. Just like with anything else, if you mess with my kids you deal with me. I actually will say something to a person smoking too close to the entrance of a store or on a playground. In Utah now you can’t smoke in bars. So you walk down the street downtown and people are in groups smoking on the sidewalk. It’s horrible. E-cigarettes definitely aren’t as bad to smelll but there isn’t enough research to know if it’s ok to breath in the secondhand vapors. I don’t want my kids breathing that either. There little lungs deserve a chance.
    Again, Thanks for posting this and hopefully it will make people think a little bit.

  9. Melissa says:

    Can I get an Amen? My 4 year old has serious respiratory reactions to irritants like smoke and I have asthma. Cigarette smoke Messes. Us. Up. And smoking makes you sick. My grandma smoked for over four decades and finally quit when she started to develop emphysema and it will affect her for the rest of her life.

    And can I whine for a moment? I live in Colorado where they have very strict smoking laws for cigarettes – you cannot smoke indoors at any commercial establishment and cannot smoke within ten feet of the entrance of any commercial establishment (if I’m remembering correctly). BUT. As the rest of the country knows our state legalized marijuana (I didn’t vote for that) yet failed to put any of those parameters in place. So people be smokin’ joints all over the place around here. Right next to the front door of Starbucks downtown. And that stuff messes with my lungs. And it smells like a cross between cigarette smoke and cat pee. Ew.

  10. Jaime says:

    Wow! This was very well said!!

  11. mamalang says:

    We are a no smoking state, and I love it. There is no smoking in public venues, no smoking on State property (actually, no tobacco use at all.) When we leave our state and go out to eat and they ask smoking or non, I stare at them like they have three heads. With an asthmatic family, it’s even better to breathe non smoky air.

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